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Are agents under a managed service entitled to charge a fee if their gas engineers are not used?

This post is more than 9 years old

November 4, 2015 by Tessa Shepperson

gas safetyHere is a question to the blog clinic from Alistair who is a landlord

My letting agent – on a fully managed service – has introduced an ‘admin charge’ of £24 for ‘processing a Gas Safety Certificate not arranged by ourselves’.

‘Ourselves engineers’ charge double what the engineer I have used for years charges and they have also missed major issues on the 2 occasions they have done work for me.

This feels a bit like the banks charging you to write a letter to say you’re overdrawn.

Is this common? Or just greed?

Answer

You first need to look to your agency agreement and see what it says about charges.

Your agent is only entitled to make the charges authorised by this agreement – they are not entitled to introduce separate charges just because they feel like it.

Also, I would have thought that a fully managed service should cover this work anyway.

Beware hidden commission charges

The fact that the charges for the recommended agent is higher makes me wonder if the agents are taking commission from them (and if this charge for using other engineers is an attempt to make up their lost commission).

Taking commission from sub contractors is (unless specifically authorised by your agency agreement) a breach of their duties to you under agency law and solicitors Leigh Day are bringing a claim against London agents Foxtons on this very issue.

You can find out more about this in our video here.

Gas Safe issues

I am also concerned that the engineers, as well as being more expensive, also seem to be incompetent.

For gas safety inspections this is a serious matter. You may want to check to make sure that the engineers are registered with the Gas Safe Register.

Even if they are, the Gas Safe Register will want to know if their engineers are not providing a proper service.

Making a complaint

You should also draw your agent’s attention to the deficiencies of their chosen engineers. Perhaps making the point that as they are more expensive than your usual engineers, you would expect a superior or at least a comparable service, not an inferior one.

You could also point out that using overpriced and incompetent gas safe engineers also reflects on their own service and could be deemed to be a breach of their duty to provide a service with reasonable care and skill.

Putting them in breach of contract and vulnerable to a claim for compensation.

If your agents do not respond adequately, note that you now have the option of making a complaint to their Redress Scheme.

 

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Notes:

Please check the date of the post - remember, if it is an old post, the law may have changed since it was written.

You should always get independent legal advice before taking any action.

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  1. Ben Reeve Lewis says

    November 4, 2015 at 11:46 am

    From now agents must by law have their fees inclusive of VAT clearly displayed in their offices and on their website which should be interesting to see.

    Even as tenants you can be affected. Our washing machine broke down. We were without a replacement for nearly two months with no proper explanation other than they were still in dispute with the landlord over it.

    Under pressure they fijally confessed that the landlord had said he would pay no more than £500 but their contractor couldnt purchase and install for under that price.

    We went to Curry’s got a decent machine bought and fitted for £350.

    I ignored the agents and emailed the landlord direct saying we had resolved and saved him £150, which we deducted from the rent with no arguments.

    He pays over a grand a year for this crap service that took the tenants to sort out.

  2. Industry Observer says

    November 5, 2015 at 9:51 am

    In almost 25 years in this industry and witnessing all sorts of people charging for all sorts of things I have never seen such a nonsense.

    All the agent has to do is tell the engineer the time and date of the appointment, hand out keys if they come to collect them if tenant not present, get the keys back and get the new gas safety record (the certificate word never appears in the Regulations by the way, just as “protection” doesn’t in the 2004 Act for TDP)into the tenants hands.

    By all means try and change agents but my guess is you will find this fraught with difficulty as long as the existing tenant remains, will face all sorts of obstacles and probably find more fees deducted from any net deposit transferred to you.

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